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Russia Tries to Influence Le Pen to Repeal Sanctions

April 29, 2017

By Bellingcat Contributor

Translations: Русский

Sanctioned Russian officials try to lobby Le Pen to Lift sanctions

Leonid Slutsky and Marine Le Pen. Image posted by Slutsky on Facebook

In late March, Marine Le Pen visited Russia, where she had meetings with Vladimir Putin, the Chairman of the Russian Duma Vyacheslav Volodin and Leonid Slutsky’s Committee on International Affairs.

Volodin told journalists that he discussed sanctions against Russia with Le Pen.

Volodin himself has been sanctioned, he was named by the EU as “responsible for overseeing the political integration of the annexed Ukrainian region of Crimea into the Russian Federation.”

According to US Treasury, “Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decision to move into Crimea is believed to have been based on consultations with his closest advisors, including Volodin.”

Discussion with Slutsky was similar, he called on Le Pen to “support Russia on European platforms” , addressing sanctions specifically: “that European and European institutions impose sanctions on us and deprive us of rights is absolutely unreasonable”.

Slutsky is also sanctioned by the EU and the US. He travelled to Crimea shortly after a new government in Kiev emerged. Two days later, a pro-Russian politician was declared prime minister and a referendum on Crimea joining Russia was announced.

After the results of the first round of voting in France, Slutsky said Le Pen voters “are those who want their future and of the French republic to be decided by them, and not by orders and methods from overseas”. He also added that “Le Pen’s entry into the second round shows the rise of protest moods not only in France but on the whole in the countries of Western Europe”

The Duma Chairman Volodin also gave Le Pen a gift, a “political biography’ of Marine Le Pen titled “The Return of Joan D’Arc by Kirill Benedictov.

Russian effort to influence opposition and Eurosceptics

Maria Katasonova holding up the “Triptych” of Putin, Le Pen and Trump

As Donald Trump’s inauguration took place in January, a high-profile party took place in Moscow. The party was focused on portraits of Vladimir Putin, Donald trump and Marine Le Pen representing the idea that the “triptych” of the leaders “will usher in a new world order”. The event included a presentation by the author of the book gifted to Le Pen, Benediktov.

Maria Katasonova, a pro-Kremlin activist present at the party, met with Marine Le Pen twice in March and reportedly set up a movement named “Women for Marine” .

The first meeting took place during Le Pen’s visit to Russia. The second was in France, when Katasonova took the paintings to France and presented them to Marine Le Pen, the event was captured on camera and uploaded by RT’s Ruptly.

Katasonova started her career in politics working for United Russia politician Evgeniy Fedorov, but has come to media attention for her political campaigning. Vice’s Broadly mentioned Katasonova as an example of Russia’s use of “beautiful women in powerful positions”,

While Katasonova claims she is “working entirely in her free time and with her own funds”, the former US Ambassador to Russia Michael Mcfaul commented on her ubiquity throughout the French campaign: She’s everywhere! Who is buying the tickets?”

Her past activity shows efforts to influence foreign political movements. In February 2014, Katasonova and her close associate Andrey Kovalenko headed to Kiev at the height of unrest. A few months prior, Kovalenko met with Russian ambassador to the EU, Vladimir Chizhov.

Kovalenko and Chizhov discussed “instruments of soft power and support to eurosceptics and opposition parties in Europe”. Not long after, Kovalenko was at a talk presented by Rossotrudnitchestvo (the Kremlin’s verson of USAID). He wrote: “Rossotrudnitchetstvo in Kiev promises to support pro-Russian movements in Ukraine.

When Katasonova presented Marine Le Pen with the “Triptych” in France, she explained it “represents a political concept where the multipolar world comes to replace the unipolar world”.

The term “multipolar” is a favourite of Russian political scientist Aleksandr Dugin, who has written a book on the “Theory of Multi-polar World”.

Aleksandr Dugin’s daughter Daria joined Kovalenko when he met with the Hungarian party Jobbik in 2014. Like Katasonova, Daria Dugina has been active in the run up to the French Election.

Sanctioned Russian Billionaire focuses his media on French election

Up until recently, Dugina reported for the nationalist Russian TV Station and news site Tsargrad under the name “Darya Platonova”. During this time, her father Aleksandr was one of the heads of Tsargrad and Katehon.

In one of her articles, Dugina warned of a civil war if Le Pen failed to win “Such an outcome might turn out to be a catastrophe for France: a civil war may flare up, and the European spring might resemble the Arab spring.”

Tsargrad and its partner website Katehon are owned by the Russian Billionaire Konstantin Malofeev, sanctioned by the EU for being”closely linked to Ukrainian separatists in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea”.

Dugina also published an exclusive interview with the French businessman Philippe De Villiers, described as a ”pillar of French conservatism and traditionalism”. Dugina wrote De Villiers, founder of the theme park Puy De Fou, endorsed Le Pen and claimed; ”the future of Europe must be written together with Russia!”.

Daria Dugina pictured with Philippe De Villiers

DeVilliers is also a business partner of Konstantin Malofeev, who has pledged to open a $500 million Puy De Fou near Moscow.

Dugina wrote a report accusing the US of imposing a “total ideological dictatorship” in France. The report was a joint project between Katehon and RISI. RISI, the Russian Institute for Strategic Investigations, was headed by Leonid Reshetnikov until the start of this year. Reshetnikov is also on the supervisory board of Katehon.

Earlier in April, Reuters reported that RISI is “run by retired senior Russian foreign intelligence officials appointed by Putin’s office” and that prepared a plan to interfere in the 2016 US Presidential election.

Circle of Russian influence in France

 Further open-source evidence suggests that Russia operates a wider circle of influence in France.

 During her March trip to France, Katasonova also met with Pierre Malinowski, member of the Front Nationale.

In an interview published earlier this year, Malinowski said that he often travels to Russia and recently had a meeting with current Deputy of the State Duma Natalia Poklonskaya.

He has also been pictured alongside ex-Russian Railways head Vladimir Yakunin, at an event hosted by Yakunin’s own Association Dialogue Franco-Russe. Yakunin was sanctioned by the US Treasury “because of his official position in the Russian government [and because] he is also a close confidant of Putin”.

The French Member of Parliament Nicolas Dhuicq serves on the board of the Dialogue Franco-Russe. In February, Dhuicq was involved in a fake news story targeting French Presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron.

Sputnik ran an article headlined “Ex-French Economy Minister Macron Could Be ‘US Agent’ Lobbying Banks’ Interests”. Sputnik wrote that according to Dhuicq, “before announcing his bid for presidency, Macron had traveled to the United States. He allegedly conducted controversial political correspondence with former US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told the Russian newspaper Izvstia on Friday.”

Dhuicq has also travelled to Russia, he visited the State Duma and shook hands with Russia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov in December 2015.

Dhuicq was also seen at a gathering organised by the group Cercle Pouchkine. The group has hosted influential lectures, including a February 2017 talk by the Russian ambassador to France. Sponsors of the Cercle Pouchkine include Thierry Mariani, head of Yakunin’s Association Dialogue Franco-Russe.

Cercle Pouchkine was founded by Pierre Gentillet, a far-right Youth activist. Gentillet was interviewed by French-language Sputnik in 2014 after he published an article titled “Why France Must Choose Putin”.

On its website, Cercle Pouchkine says its objectives are to “contribute to the rapprochement between the two great French and Russian nations…promote the idea of a multipolar world through civil society” .

Kremlin campaign to influence French multinational Alstom

Left to right: Deputy Chairman of Mechel Alexander Shokhin, head of Alstom Russia Phillipe Pegorier, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Pegorier was awarded with the Russian State decoration The Order of Friendship in October 2016

Earlier this month, the New York Times reported that the Dialogue Franco-Russe “seems to be making the case for lifting sanctions against Russia and promoting the Kremlin’s geopolitical views”. It also mentioned “according to the French secret services, the organisation is “infected” with the Russian foreign intelligence service”.

Under “members and partners”, the Dialogue list the French rail transport multinational Alstom: it lists contact information for the Alstom CEO Henry Poupart-Lafarge and President of Alstom Russia, Ukraine and Belarus Phillipe Pegorier.

In May 2014 Pegorier was elected as chairman of the Association of European Business (AEB) in Russia.

In April 2016 Pegorier posted a photo of himself and Lavrov wrote a message to members of the AEB, detailing his work towards rapprochement between Europe and Russia.

Pegorier has spoken out against the EU sanctions on Russia, and his statements have been picked up by RT. Pegorier left his position with the AEB, but is reportedly now in charge of relations with the Russian government for the French Republican Party in Russia.

In February, Izvestia published an interview with Alexis Tarrade, said to be the head of the Russian department at the French Republican Party and “representative of [French presidential candidate] Fillon” (Source).

The headline of the Izvestia piece read “Representative of Fillon: the groundwork for a dialogue with Moscow is in place”.

But links between Alstom and Russia do not end with Pegorier. A “Business Development Manager of the South CIS Cluster” of Alstom, Dimitry Lycett appears to have links with ex-SVR department head Leonid Reshetnikov – the former head of RISI and board member of Katehon.

Leonid Reshetnikov (Foreground), the former of head of RISI and ex-SVR department head travelled to Limnos, Greece with the Executive President of the Dialogue Franco-Russe and Dimitry Lycett of Alstom

Lycett and his wife appear also appear to be friends with Vladimir Rodzianko, the co-founder of the pro-Kremlin fake news site The Duran, and the group have been photographed together at numerous social occasions. Rodzianko was also present at their wedding (Source).

The Lycetts’ wedding was also attended by Nicolas Troubetzkoi, of relation to the Executive President  of the Association Dialogue Franco-Russe Alexandre Troubetzkoi.

Other wedding guests included Lycett’s boss Pegorier, and Leonid Reshetnikov. Aleksandra, the youngest of Reshetnikov’s two daughters also “liked” some of the wedding photos on Facebook.

Reshetnikov, his daughter Elena, Alexandre Troubetzkoi and Dimtry Lycett also went on a trip together to Limnos, Greece.

Leonid Reshetnikov has a connection to this Island and has written a publication titled “Russian Limnos” focused around Orthodox Christianity.

Summary

We have seen evidence that the Kremlin wants to influence France to lift sanctions against Russia. This includes the efforts of officials like Vyacheslav Volodin and Leonid Slutsky who met with Presidential candidate Marine Le Pen to discuss this issue.

Presidential candidate Le Pen has also been targeted by pro-Putin activist Maria Katasonova, who has been promoting the idea of a “triptych” of Putin, Trump and Le Pen. Katasonova and her fellow activist Kovalenko appear to have engaged in “instruments of soft power and support to eurosceptics and opposition parties in Europe”,

The sanctioned billionaire Konstantin Malofeev’s Tsargrad and Katehon have produced articles on the French Elections. These include an endorsement from Malofeev business partner Philippe De Villiers who emphasized that France should work together with Russia.

Malofeev’s associate Leonid Reshetnikov headed the Russian Institute for Strategic Investigations (RISI) during the period it “prepared a plan to interfere in the 2016 US Presidential election”.

French Republican Party member Nicolas Dhuicq serves on the board of Vladimir Yakunin’s Association Dialogue Franco-Russe. Dhuicq was involved in Russian media claims that  Presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron is a “US Agent’ Lobbying Banks’ Interests”.

According to French secret services, the organisation is “infected” with the Russian foreign intelligence service”. The Executive President of the Association Dialogue Alexandre Troubetzkoi and Leonid Reshetnikov have links to key figures Alstom in Russia. Alstom is listed as a partner of the Dialoge Franco-Russe. The head of Alstom Russia Phillipe Pegorier is currently in charge of links between French Republican Party in Russia and the Russian government.

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92 Comments

      • Sandy miller

        I see all the putin trolls are at work on this site. Thank god for those boys for working to get the truth out. Thank you boys. May god bless and protect you against all evil putin regime trolls.

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    • stranger

      Did you noticed, Bellingcat even stopped signing their opuses. Bellingcat itself consists of just two good boys of their governments, Eliot Higgins and Aric Toler. Higgins afaik doesn’t have a highest education, but have a mortgage. Toler does have an education in Russian literature, which is probably hard to find a good job with, and have a student loan debt. So they are trying to earn money as they could selling their propaganda. But they almost don’t investigate anything themselves, they write almost nothing themselves. All articles are given to them by third authors, allergedly unpaid “volunteers”. Aha, we have seen such “volunteers” in Syria. They serve just as a spun off outlet to disseminate their propaganda, just slightly disguised under “investigations”. There are no Open Source Investigations here what they claim to be for a very long time. There is political, extremely biased propagandistic stuff. Why writes this anonymous anti Russian shit for them?

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      • stranger

        It is not open source, even closely. They pick up particular unrelated facts out of context and try to build just another anti Russian conspiracy around them.

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        • Andrea

          Why do you have to label everything as pro/anti something?
          By this standard anything is obviously anti-someone…
          This articles points a spotlight on something that is undeniable: “high rankings” invited a politician and they openly support her cause she fits their interests (remove sanctions)…
          How is reporting this anti-russian?? At least i would say anti-french cause at the very end it’s the baguette-eaters that would pay the price of this…

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          • stranger

            Because it is an anti Russian anonymous propagandistic shit, very common for Bellingcat. They try to accuse Russia in influencing elections in other countries for the sake of “destructive ultra right” parties. In the same way as Clinton tryed to ascribe her own faults to Russian hackers, this rhetoric is used further for French elections. Bellingcat tries to build conspiracy on the basis of absolutely unimportant and unrelated details picked up out of context. Bellingcat claims that Russia does it to remove sanctions, as if Russia is not interested in friendly mutually beneficial relationships with everybody, and especially France. Probably their sponsors pay them for this kind of shit. Probably those two Bellingcat guys really need money to pay off their mortgage and the other ones educational loan so they have to sell this propagandistic shit. While their authors are too ashamed to even sign their opuses.

          • ciris

            Being Russian must say ONLY Russians has a habit to built something “anti” “in spite of”. This comes out of Bolsheviks traditions- eternal fight against something while killing millions of people.
            Some sort of stupid sacrifice for nothing but slogans “we are the greatest” yet stealing everything what comes across – AK machine guns from Schmeiser, rockets from fon Braun etc.

        • Black Star

          As usual, the Putin-troll “Stranger” has not a single thread of evidence to support his claims.

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          • stranger

            Hotzl, sorry I forgot to include you in the list of nasty probably Ukrainian trolls here: hotzl, ukukrman, Dr.Da and Black Star, so nice names you have. Are you able my dear ukrop-troll to couple more than two words together? LOL
            What you guys organize here, attacking commenters personally, In Russia and Ukraine have a special name – Khokhlo-srach, which is a kind of argument called by a combination of two words – Ukrainian-shitting. But you know that perfectly, right, because you are from there.

          • stranger

            Second try to avoid moderation:
            Hotzl, sorry I forgot to include you in the list of nast y probably Ukrainian trolls here: hotzl, ukukrman, Dr.Da and Black Star, so nice names you have. Why are you so laconic, are you able my dear ukr0p-troll to couple more than two words together? LOL
            What you guys organize here, attacking commenters personally, in Russia and Ukraine have a special name – Kh0khl0-sr@ch, which is a kind of argument called by a combination of two words – Ukrainian-sh1tting, since it seems culturally specific. But you know that perfectly, right, because you are from there.

      • Ghostship

        So what. It’s part of the function of governments to influence other governments. Any government that claims it doesn’t try to do this is lying. That it’s “open source” is good because anyone can buy a newspaper or watch the news and find out about it. On the other hand, the United States tends to do this type of thing more secretively by either bribing or threatening other governments. How else to explain that when Washington says jump, all the poddles who are Europe’s leading politicians immediately beg “how high?” It’s time that Europe’s poodles, sorry, politicians, told Washington where to go.

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  1. Eingkeit und Recht

    Thank you for the investigations. Putin tries to influence politics in Germany, too.

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    • stranger

      That is what I told, staring from Clinton, dirty politicians in different countries are trying to play the Russian threat card. In US they were trying to spread fake news to couple Trump with allerged Russian support to suppress him and help Clinton – they failed. In France they are trying to compromise Le Pen by claiming Russia is helping her, to suppress her and support their candidate Macron. Before that they compromised Fion and removed him from the race. The majority of EU politicians stated they will support Macron, and will not allow Le Pen. But that is not considered as an intrusion into elections. But Russia is trying to intrude according to them. In Germany the same fake news will be used too. Please be careful, remember that Clinton had lost trying to play fake Russian threat card. You would really come to Le Pen victory by such your propagandistic fakes.

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      • Mad Dog

        You mean her visits and relations with Russian politicians and oligarchs are all false news? Egads. She is just trying to be nice and Putin is not interested in any elections at all. political, extremely biased propagandistic stuff you say? Sounds vaguely like the stuff coming out of RT. There is the source of very blatantly massaged news. But hell, Russia is a paradise and can do no wrong, but BC is just and evil empire with its leader having, of all things, a mortgage (horrors) and his princeling burdened with a student loan (OMG!). Sadly, stranger, you just keep trying to divert attention away from the facts and other information brought out here by your protestations that this is all an anti-Soviet (oops, sorry) Russian site financed by George Soros and a Jewish conspiracy.

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        • stranger

          Le Pen was looking for the attention from the Russian side, probably because she represents the opposition views in her country and because she is for more sovereignty for France and independence from the Atlantic globalism model, while she represents at least one third of all voters. That is an internal affair of France.
          That is not a crime to go to Russia to meet Russian government, is it?
          This article though messes all together the Le Pen’s visit to Russia, Russian marginal nationalists, freak Dugin, and even thries to connect the “Russian foreign intelligence service” here, and turn it out as “Russian attempt to remove sanctions” (see the Summary paragraph).
          In my opinion, that is not only over simplification, that is anonymous anti Russian propagandistic shit. That is the continuation of exploiting “Russian threat” card started by you failed witch Clinton. Democrats have been researching the connection of Trump to Russia and the allerged Russian involvement into US elections for half an year alreafy(!) Tell us, did they find anything? None, nothing at all. They are just using it as attempt to discredit republicans and particularly Trump, and they don’t care if this is true or a lie, they would use any lie if that helps.
          As for Bellingcat, I gave you the link to Elliot Higgins interview to Zhanna Nemtsova where he clearly said himself that Open Society fund is among Bellingcat sponsors. Open Society was founded by George Soros, the billionaire and maecenas who is known to pursue political aims in other countries. Where is any conspirology here? Higgins said that himself. As for “Jewish conspirology” I have no idea what you are talking about. Many anti Russian authors who are very popular as “experts for Russia” in the western media happen to be Russian-Jew immigrants, like Marsha Gessen, Belkovskiy, Khodirkovskiy, Kasparov (for a half) others, but we cannot make any conclusions on this basis, that doesn’t mean that other Jewish immigrants from Russia don’t love their first motherland. There are a lot of anti Russian authors who are not Jews like Ilkarionov, a number of British ones. So what’s your point here? No any conspirology as well.

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        • stranger

          How am I trying to “divert attention”, if I’m telling you about this particular article, that this article is a mixture of unrelated evidences which Bellingcat anonymouses pervert trying to build into the conspirology of evil Russian influence to Europe?
          In order to understand why (for what) such propagandistic nonsense is created, we also need to see a bigger context, including Clinton’s campaign and the further democrats wars against republicans based on the image of the evil Russia, including also how Bellingcat works. That is the continuation of the very same propagandistic campaign against Russia.
          For Higgins, it’s a business he just wants to spin off. He has found a current hot topic of massive anti Russian hysteria and is trying to exploit it for own fame and money. There are also sponsors who are ready to pay for that. I mentioned his mortgage only in this context. That might be his motivation to sell propaganda. Moreover the bellingcats are almost not doing any investigations themselves, they are just providing the platform for other authors to distribute their opuses, sometimes more technical, sometimes explicit anonymous propagandistic shit like this article and others. So what their sponsors are paying them for? To support the propagandistic outlet, which repackages Ukrainian and Syrian rebels disinformation under a more acceptable brand.
          And how can I “divert” if people have own predefined opinions and usually are just looking to confirm their opinions rather than to get any new information which can shatter their views? Was I able to convince you in anything for all this time? Nope. Why do you think other people are more stupid or at least are any different from you? Vice verse is also true.

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          • Dr. Da

            Do you honestly think you are providing any information?

  2. Ukukraman

    Clearly there are a group of dedicated Russian troll bots dedicated to this site who jump on the slightest and i Russian propaganda…. or truth and lies what ever it may be

    Bit one thing is irrevocable truth

    Russian backed scum invaded Ukraine and stole territory

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    • stranger

      Whom did you call a troll, Ukr? You yourself is spreading anti Russian hatred here with each and every your post. Crimeans decided to go to Russia because they were fed up by your Ukrainian policies. Crimea is not territory, that is people, and people decided they don’t want to have anything with you. And if they didn’t your Ukraine would organize a blood bath in Crimea as it did in Donbas. There are more than 2000 civilians dead and 10000 total casualties, because your new government who came as the result of a violent coup threw the army to suppress its own region, because you bombed the cities from artillery, tanks, aviation and even grads. Then you are saying Russia is guilty that you were killing own population from heavy weapon and then you are crying on the forums trying to put all the blame to Russia and begging for more and more money for Ukraine.

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      • Sandy miller

        You’re a flat out liar. Putin Russia invaded and stole Ukraine because there’s oil in the Black Sea and they needed to put a pipeline there to connect with Iran, Iraq and Syria. Let’s be honest this is all about money for putin. It’s putin and his proxy army that have bombed and killed the people not Ukrainian government. Your thieving asses have no business stealing land and killing the people of Ukraine. Get the hell out and shut your filthy lying mouths. I’ve never been a violent person but if I ever saw one of you trolls in the street I’d punch you right in those lying mouths. I’ve had enough of your lies. How do you sleep at night? I’ve never wished anyone ill but you people deserve to burn in hell.

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        • Mr White

          Why would they need a pipeline from Iran, Iraq and Syria to Crimea if there’s oil in the Black Sea? I don’t follow.

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          • Black Star

            Another favorite method of Putin-trolls: act like they suddenly know nothing.

          • stranger

            I don’t see any trolls here except Ukrainian ukukraman, Dr. Da who appeared to speak Russian too, and Black Star, probably all nasty trolls from Ukraine.

        • stranger

          That has nothing to do with oil. You are absolutely ignorant in Russian Ukrainian relationships and particularly this conflict.

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      • Mad Dog

        here we go with those numbers again. Sorry they haven’t been confirmed. How about all that Russian arty raining shell on the Ukrainian countryside. Did they just hit outhouses and empty fields? As for bombing one’s own cities, guess the Ukes took some good lessons from the bombardment of Grozny, among other places….and they just didn’t limit themselves to Grads either.

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        • stranger

          But the bi-cats would never tell you about the civilian casualties from the Ukrainian fire. The cats are just the smallest piece of the whole propaganda, which would exaggerate the crimes of one side and close the eyes on the crimes of the other side. That how the mordern propaganda works.

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  3. Aaron Saenz

    This Bellingcat piece is not remotely “anti-Russian”. In fact, the piece tries to be balanced and objective but ends up looking rather “pro-Kremlin” because it eschews the most realistic views of Katasonova, Dugin, Dugina, Malofeev – they are truly a bunch of neo-fascist, ultra-nationalist swine whose idea of ‘multi-polarity” is really about creating a New Russian Empire built on a sick imperialism of wicked intent.

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    • stranger

      They take Dugin, Katasonova and other rather extravagant persons, and then try to present it as a Kremlin plot. They try to accuse Russia as a state in influencing elections now in France, and since they paint Le Pen as ultra right nationalist, they claim Russia is intentionally playing a destructive role in Europe. That rhetoric definitely serve to support the other candidate at the France elections. See also their other related anti Russian articles also anonymous. That is neither objective nor balanced, even remotely.

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      • Mr White

        yes i dont know much about Russia but i do know Katasanova and Dugin are not important political figures in Russia, indeed they are considered rather as nutters, I believe.

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        • Black Star

          I am pretty sure you know all about what happens in Russia, “mr. white”, especially in St. Petersburg…

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      • Black Star

        So, “Stranger” ( I know you have not read the article, that is why you have no idea what the story is about), do you have a theory where the Dugin, Katasanova etc. get the very large amounts of money they need to travel all over the world spreading Putin’s propaganda?

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        • Mad Dog

          do we have any idea of where all those in the clique get all that money. Even Medevdev has cashed in!

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          • stranger

            You call me a troll, but why are you completely blind to the trolls from the side you are defending, from the anti Russian side, such as only from this topic: horzl, DrDa, Black Star, Sandy Miller, many other for the time we are on this forum? If you remove blinders from your eyes you would see that many more trolls have been here to discredit Russia, other than mythical Russian trolls. Some of them speak Russian, some of them exhibit typical post soviet mentality, which indicates most probably that they are pathetic Ukrainian trolls. Not talking about the cr@zy anti Russian, pro their governments, bias of this site itself. You choose to not see it.

          • stranger

            Moreover you yourself exhibit quite trolling behavior, while hiding under an anonymous nick. What does it mean a Mad Dog? A dog who got cr@zy?

    • Ghostship

      Can we play Foreign Interventionist Top Trumps (not Trump). I’ll draw Hillary Clinton, George Soros, the NED, the DNI, the IRI and Freedom House. Hey, I win every time.

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  4. Dr. Da

    Here’s more work for our “stranger”…
    Well researched facts which add some pieces to the puzzle – OSINT for short.
    Adds up to the Kremlin money trail to Le Pen which is already known.

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    • Mr White

      what Kremlin money trail? when did specifically the Russian government give any money to Le Pen?

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      • Black Star

        “Mr. White”, you are discussing with people who have good knowledge of the Le Pen-Putin monetary connection, so this is not a good time to act like you know nothing about it yourself.

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      • Dr. Da

        You should know this: The Russian government doesn’t sit in the Kremlin

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  5. Tourist

    When Le Pen becomes president of France, I will no more make holidays in France. That’s promised.

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      • Mr White

        Aric Toler lives in one of the former rebel slave states of the US and is white.

        He’s obviously a racist.

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        • stranger

          If he had been so he would probably have moved to Canada even sooner. Because North Carolina is a rather black state probably.

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          • Mr White

            Let’s just keep calling him a racist for being white in North Carolina.

          • Black Star

            Well, this is coming from people (“Stranger”, “Mr. White”) who act racist against Ukrainians, so their racism against african americans is no surprise.

          • stranger

            Reread what I have written if you don’t get it from the first time. I’ve told nothing racistic neither about Toler, nor black people, nor even Ukrainians. If you, Ukrainian trolls, behave nasty here, you humiliate yourselves and discredit your country yourself, that is just a matter of the fact.

  6. Ukukraman

    Am I anti Russian……you bet I am
    Russia was at the heart of the Maidan revolt….what else would they have done …..with Mr Golden toilet yanyukovich heading into a gauranteed electoral loss the year after he was ousted…paving the way for less ties to Putin’s sphere of geopolitical interest … no big strategic buffer between Russia and europe… losing Sebastopol base licence eventually … so in go the little green men….to donetsk lugansk Crimea….. and tried many more places…. kharkiv…odessa… mariupol

    Don’t bore me with so called referendums… all Russian referendum results are inevitably 90% plus….haha…..for those figures in Crimea you would have needed more than the votes of your Russian passport holders…. he’ll you would have needed tartars voting for Russia…and look what Stalin did to them

    So ‘stranger’ and all the other Putin fan boys … the 10000 dead are on Putin’s account…. oh that includes MH17 dead…murders….russian missilesmade in Russia paid for by Russia sent by Russia … those and the numerous ‘lost’ Russian active combat soldiers captured….you would say volunteers of course…. and the brand new Soviet armour that some how get lost with them in Ukraine as well

    You Russophile bots bore me…..

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    • Mr White

      blah blah Mr Ukrop. If you want Crimea back, go and take it, don’t piss your pants and whine to your American friends to do it for you.

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    • Mr White

      Ukraine bores me. You people need to get your act together and stop acting like international beggars.

      Newsflash – nobody really cares about you.

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          • stranger

            They are obviously europeoids as Russians and Europeans are. Racism is an American word, the right word concerning current Ukrainian policies is – nationalism.

  7. Mr White

    do you know how many billions of dollars of foreign investment there have been in Russia so far in 2017, Ukukraman?

    And do you know the figure for Ukraine?

    Do you know your country’s GDP is the size of Angola’s?

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    • Black Star

      Freedom of press index: Russia is ranked number 148.
      Corruption index: Russia is ranked number 131 out of 176 countries ranked.

      Looks like Russia is not so great after all 🙂

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  8. Ukukraman

    Haha Mr White

    at least we now see the typical russophile troll coming down to their basic mud slinging instincts when simple truth gets in the way of a propaganda pitch

    The pressure will never stop on Russians and Putin …. Barring the quiet few Russians who don’t support the putin regime but for fear of terminal all retribution stay quiet the rest of you are going straight to hell for your stupidity…..

    Yes you killed the Ukrainian economy as well as the lives of Ukrainians….entirely to plan …. What you can’t control you destroy

    Russia is shrinking before your very eyes but your own propaganda machine blinds you to it ….. Just like it is meant to…. Because the Russian propaganda machine is not meant for the world ….. Its meant for russians …. Just like it always has been

    But lest I get stuck off topic shooting you bots down ….. Let’s get to subject

    Le Penn backed by russia….of course…..but then so is the far left…..if you want to rock a boat you have to apply weight to both sides….Russia funds communist Melenchon as well which one might think logical given the russian government are simply old school commies dressed in armani… But Penn is far right politics…..you know, the same fascist Nazi junta you say took over Ukrainian politics

    So please all you bots….go play your mind games on your home crowd of stupid moscali ….the real world knows who you are…..and we want you gone…. Das vidanya Russia

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    • stranger

      Typical ukrosrach from Ukrainian troll. Please don’t worry for Russia. Russians have come through much worse time and will come through this too. Russia will stay – don’t even hope. Putin will have gone, but Crimea will not return to you. For a simple reason – people of Crimea, who are fed up by your nationalistic Ukrainian policies, by the attempts to teach them speak Ukrainian, by your new culture, praising Bandera and other racistic criminals, which is called nazlo moscalyam otmorozhu ushi, by making them a second grade people. Your lying about falsified referendum does not change the fact that the majority of people didn’t want to be with you, but wanted to be with Russia. Any referendum would show that. But you always say about Crimea as territory which you want to return, but you always completely ignore people living there. Is it the reason why you systematically exterminate your own citizens in the east? Because you don’t want unloyal people there, less them are left, better is for you, you want only territory back, right?
      You better deal with your own problems. Maydan gathered for an European dream, because “evil Yanuk didn’t allow Ukraine to go to Europe”. So three years have passed after you overthrown Yanuk via violence and blood at Maydan, you have the Euro association you paid by such price, what have changed? You was told it would not gonna work, so it doesn’t, ukraine economy continues to go he11, Europe agreed on euro association with the strict condition that Ukraine would never join EU, may be Yanuk was right to postpone it? But you of course always blame Russia. Your corruption is flourishing, that rhetoric of corrupt Yanuk and reforms, finally appeared to be just bluff. You are just living at an reanimation injections of money from EU and IMF because they cannot let you to sink completely. But US is going already to cut off their monetary support to you, and most importantly you forget that those are just debts your future generations will have to pay off, which they will not be able to. You have destroyed your country yourself but you always blame Russia instead, and wish Russia to collapse. You will not get it, but you better work to rebuild your own country first.

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      • Sandy miller

        Only 37% of people in Crimea voted with a gun in their back and only one choice: do you want to join Russia? You call the a referendum for anything. Even the people who voted what else could they do when Russian terrorists took over the peninsula? Is that why so many Crimean tartars, Russians and Ukrainians are still fighting you? No man. You can’t believe that anyone is gonna buy your smear job anymore. Everyone knows putin stole Crimea for a pipeline and oil in the Black Sea. It’s that simple. Ukrainians did not oppress anyone in Crimea or Ukraine. That’s something only Russia does. Russians have suffered. Please tell that to someone who doesn’t know our history. You should say Ukrainians have suffered . How many wars were in Ukrainian lands? You tell me? After ww2 Ukraine lay in ruins. How many Ukrainians died in 1932-33 between 3 million and 7 million. No one even bothered to count us. How many more millions died during ww2. 10-16 million. Please don’t ever tell me Russians have suffered. It is you that has. Aided all the suffering and killing and stealing others land. Russia is the most cunning , lying , thieving country in the world. Always has been and looks like always will be.

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        • stranger

          “Please tell that to someone who doesn’t know our history.”
          What do you mean by this phrase? Are you Russian or most probably Ukrainian? I’m trying to understand whether you are honestly ignorant or intentionally lying. Because, no, everything you are saying starting from “vote with a gun at their heads” and up to “Putin stole Crimea to get oil reserves” is not only simply not true, but rather a clinical delirium. Referendum is the least evidence of the Crimeans support for Russia. I know personally people from Crimea, I’ve read the blogs of real Crimeans, not sh1tty propagandists from either side, I know what Ukrainians themselves tell about Crimeans. Right from the time Khrushchev granted Crimea to Ukrainian soviet republic which was within the same country called USSR, just administrative division, Crimeans have never ever perceived themselves as Ukrainians. Crimeans with the vast majority speaking Russian were very disappointed when Ukraine trying to make the only Ukrainian language for the only official language and people who wanted to enter a colleague and had never ever spoken Ukrainian before, should have suddenly prepare to the exams in Ukrainian. When you ukrainian nationalism started which was always targeted against Russia and Russians. Most Crimeans are Russians, how do you think they thought about your Ukrainian nationalism? What you are saying is simply not true, wether you are honestly ignorant or intentionally lying. And again, why did you say it is “our history”? How is it YOUR history, where are you from?

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          • Dr. Da

            Here we are: samiye, samiye.
            In case you forgot, this article is OSINT about the support to Le Pen.
            You really remind me of her attitude during the TV debate with Macron.

  9. Mr White

    Ukukrama wrote:
    Yes you killed the Ukrainian economy as well as the lives of Ukrainians….entirely to plan …. What you can’t control you destroy

    Russia does not care about the so called Ukrainian economy.

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    • frank

      My experience with Ukrainians is they are a corrupt bunch of elitists, a mafia state. I think Russia’s intervention in Crimea was a response to the CIA/neocon intervention in Kiev and Syria

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      • Dr. Da

        Can’t wait to get the details about your “experience”

        P.S. In 2016 GDP growth in Ukraine was higher than in Russia

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        • frank

          You will come to learn that GDP growth is a concept that both means very little and means little to you. I will happily debate you on economics, but I stand by my statement, Ukrainians are elitist and it is a mafia state. You cannot deny it

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          • sandy miller

            How are Ukrainians any different than any other state. They are all corrupt if they weren’t there would be no wars. So please stop the bs we’re not buying it. Go somewhere else and troll.

          • Dr. Da

            Details, please! Or are you talking about a psychotropic experience?

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