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BellingChat Episode 2 – Racism Today

June 11, 2020

By Eliot Higgins

In this week’s episode of BellingChat, Eliot Higgins is joined by Bellingcat’s Charlotte Godart and Nick Waters to discuss their recent work documenting police violence against journalists during the recent protests in response to the police killing of George Floyd. We’re also joined by Robert Evans, Bellingcat writer and presenter of Behind the Bastards on iHeartRadio, to talk about his experiences on the ground covering the US protests and his encounters will police violence, as well as his recent work on the Boogaloo movement.

Later, we’re joined by Bellingcat’s Natalia Antonova and Roman Dobrokhotov from The Insider to discuss RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan‘s sharing of racist advice to George Lloyd protesters on her Telegram channel, and RT’s bizarre defence of her actions.

Some of the articles discussed in the podcast:

Visualizing Police Violence Against Journalists At Protests Across The U.S

US Law Enforcement Are Deliberately Targeting Journalists During George Floyd Protests

Guardian – ‘I’m getting shot’: attacks on journalists surge in US protests

RT – Bellingcat’s (race) war against RT: Russians didn’t kill George Floyd, but are STILL BAD, say internet ‘sleuths’

The tweet that sparked RT’s response

 

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Eliot Higgins

Eliot Higgins is the founder of Bellingcat and the Brown Moses Blog. Eliot focuses on the weapons used in the conflict in Syria, and open source investigation tools and techniques.

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6 Comments

  1. WIKIFREAKS

    WIKIFREAKS June 12, 2020 At 8:28 pm

    whats the connection ??? The Irish independent newspaper is owned by Bill Clintons best friend Dennis O Brien!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who gave clinton lots and lots of money BOOK CLINTON CASH!!!!

    WIKIFREAKS June 12, 2020 at 5:21 pm – Reply

    Anonymous12 June 2020 at 17:15

    WIKIFREAKS June 12, 2020 at 5:12 pm – Reply

    The article below is removed exactly from Russian servers and is not intended in any way to be outlined furthermore it is an anti semitic site that should be banned.
    The Reichsmarschall
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/reviews/HGReviews.html
    Albert Smith in The Irish Independent, Dublin, September 2, 1989. “THIS IS the best-researched biography and best biography in English of ‘the second man in the Third Reich.’ … Göring somehow obtained poison — Irving has done good detective work here — …

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/british-holocaust-denier-david-irving-to-lead-nazi-death-camp-tour/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/20/austria.thefarright

    Allegations found on internet sites in April this year 2020, make it clear that former Irish Independent Newspaper sub editor Albert Smith misused his position of power politically to his own ends by celebrating,endorsing and approving the public sale of literature produced by self confessed convicted fascist David Irwing.It was uncovered by Russian Yandex hackers that it was Smiths own personal decision and plan of action,none other,acting as a sub editor of the Irish Independent newspaper,to oversee the publication of an article produced and written personally by himself that would promote the sale of Irwings published fascistic books collectively by describing them as a scholarship.

    After the Guardian Newspaper announced David Irwings jail conviction in for production of anti semitic literature it was expected that the NUJ under its own rulings and regulations would automatically turn there own immediate attentions to any Newspapers or journalists that had in the past prior to Irwings conviction blatently collaberated with Irwing themselves in producing anti semitic publications for Newspapers.European laws thankfully prohibit actual production of any form of anti semitic articles in Newspapers for public sale, however despite the recent discovery by Russian Yandex hackers of the obvious illegal activity of the Irish Independent Newspaper the National union of journalists the (NUJ) have been found guilty of failing to take legal actions against known journalists within their organization that have seemingly committed anti semitic criminal offenses in the past when there is more than enough evidence to start summary proceedings against them.

    The NUJ as an acting body does not identify the historically published anti semitic incident produced by the Irish Independent even though evidence of the newspaper article is still in existence and online today.At the time of Irwings convictions there where no NUJ investigations. Yandex sources indicate Albert Smith is at present 2020 payed a regular weekly income from the Irish Independent Newspaper which is a completely disgraceful situation.

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  2. Hoof

    We regard ourselves as researchers and whistleblowers:
    https://www.adl.org/spelling

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/whats-in-a-hyphen-why-writing-anti-semitism-with-a-dash-distorts-its-meaning/

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-anti-antisemitism-a-battle-rages-over-the-jewish-hyphen-1.8856789

    Spelling of antisemitism vs. anti-Semitism
    ADL has adopted the spelling of “antisemitism” instead of “anti-Semitism.” After reviewing the history and consulting with other leading experts, we’ve determined that this is the best way to refer to hatred toward Jews.

    The word “Semitic” was first used by a German historian in 1781 to bind together languages of Middle Eastern origin that have some linguistic similarities. The speakers of those languages, however, do not otherwise have shared heritage or history. There is no such thing as a Semitic peoplehood. Additionally, one could speak a Semitic language and still have anti-Semitic views.

    And in 1879, German journalist Wilhelm Marr coined “Antisemitismus” to mean hatred of the Jewish “race,” adding racial and pseudo-scientific overtones to the animus behind the word. But hatred toward Jews, both today and in the past, goes beyond any false perception of a Jewish race; it is wrapped up in complicated historical, political, religious, and social dynamics.

    While removing a hyphen by itself won’t defeat antisemitism, we believe this slight alteration will help to clarify understanding of this age-old hatred.

    Spelling of antisemitism vs. anti-Semitism
    ADL has adopted the spelling of “antisemitism” instead of “anti-Semitism.” After reviewing the history and consulting with other leading experts, we’ve determined that this is the best way to refer to hatred toward Jews.

    The word “Semitic” was first used by a German historian in 1781 to bind together languages of Middle Eastern origin that have some linguistic similarities. The speakers of those languages, however, do not otherwise have shared heritage or history. There is no such thing as a Semitic peoplehood. Additionally, one could speak a Semitic language and still have anti-Semitic views.

    And in 1879, German journalist Wilhelm Marr coined “Antisemitismus” to mean hatred of the Jewish “race,” adding racial and pseudo-scientific overtones to the animus behind the word. But hatred toward Jews, both today and in the past, goes beyond any false perception of a Jewish race; it is wrapped up in complicated historical, political, religious, and social dynamics.

    While removing a hyphen by itself won’t defeat antisemitism, we believe this slight alteration will help to clarify understanding of this age-old hatred.

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  3. Wikifreaks

    Irish Independent newspaper article that is used in 2020 to promote racist books sales.

    David Irvings Goring biography is unlikely to raise hackles… One cannot fail to be impressed by the painstaking thoroughness of Irvings scholarship.He has tracked down critical diaries written by Goring to which no other biographers had access… and his passionate love letters.. Overall Irvings book is a very good offering .It is not as concerned to provoke controversy as many of his earlier works.

    In sentencing David Irving in court to 3 years in prison for producing his alleged scholarship Judge Gray concluded that David Irving was “a racist, an anti Semite and an active Holocaust denier” he also concluded quote:”Irving has fallen so far short of the standards of scholarship customary amongst historians that he does not deserve to be called a historian at all.”
    In the absence of any form of press release by the Irish Independent newspaper on the allegations that their newspaper is at present still actively supporting the sale of David Irvings fascistic publications after being convicted for producing them in the first instance,readers are reminded to be aware of the fact that organizations such as the National Union of Journalsits (NUJ) are obliged automatically under law to implement proceedings against journalists when known as having committing criminal offenses.Any NUJ legal proceedings would of course force the subsequent removal of the newspaper article from Irvings site, the fact that the NUJ itself wont give evidence against former Sub editor Albert Smith is a complete disgrace and further prevents the removal of the article in question from Irvings site along with of course the Irish Independents newspaper remaining in an ongoing silence.
    The evidence supplied to Bellingcat proves beyond any doubt what so ever that the Irish Independent Newspaper article is still being used to sell and promote David Irwings books at this present moment in time 2020, which is illegal to do so as European laws prohibit newspapers from physically supporting the sale of racist literature.
    After Judge Grays rulings the irish Independent Newspaper must have the whistle blown on them.Albert Smith endorsed and acclaimed the very scholarship Judge Gray sentenced David Irving for producing.If a journalist is therefore impressed with a scholarship to the point that the adjectivity itself is highlighted then this can perhaps imply that the journalist in turn complicitly agrees with the content of that particular scholarship in question otherwise presumably the journalist would willingly state something clearly different(in issues of fascism a journalist doesnt remain on both sides or the fence Albert Smith quoted the following “Overall Irvings book is a very good offering It is not as concerned to provoke controversy as many of his earlier works”.

    The underlying view of Wikifreaks is that the Irish Independent newspaper should be held accountable under law for the promoting of illegally produced Fascist right wing propoganda in accordance with Judge Grays ruling that David Irving was “a racist, an anti Semite and an active Holocaust denier” providing of course that the newspaper concerned continues to refuse or fails to take a form of action and/or release a press statement regarding allegations put directly to the newspaper of unlawfully aiding and abetting a convicted fascist in the continued sale and distribution of forbidden or outlined articles of racist publication.Arguing on whether or not certain titles of old stocks of books still remain in print or are available under the counter is no defense.

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  4. Grucifer 2

    https://antisemitism.uk/owen-jones-attacks-michael-gove-for-buying-book-by-holocaust-denier-david-irving-in-order-to-debunk-it-despite-jones-spending-years-defending-antisemitic-corbyn/

    David Irving Göring
    fpp.co.uk › books › Goering › Goering_2010.pdf · PDF file
    david irving’s göring biography is unlikely to raise hackles. . . One cannot fail to be impressed by the painstaking thoroughness of Irving’s scholarship. He has tracked down critical diaries written by Göring to which no other biographers had access . . . and his passionate love letters . . . Overall, Irving’s book is a very good offering

    The statement above is removed exactly as it is from Google publishing search engine,this advertised format is beyond offensive, there is nothing whats so ever impressive about fascism or the production of fascist propaganda.

    The Google advertisement itself is evidence of a form of collaboration between both Irving,the journalist and Google,whom collectively together are making money from internet activity past and present .

    The NUJ Journalist responsible for the wording of the advertisement receives a weekly income from the Irish Independent Newspaper whereby the NUJ (National Union of Journalists) itself refuses to remove or take actions against a life member of the NUJ,despite knowledge of the advertisement.

    One of the speeches that Irving was convicted for was a call for an end to the “gas chambers fairy tale”,

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  5. Autonomous Anarconymous

    Researched evidence as follows: May 2020

    MICHAEL Gove has come under fire after his journalist wife Sarah Vine tweeted two pictures of their bookcases, showing a book by David Irving, the Holocaust denier, and The Bell Curve, which controversially claims that ethnicity can play a part in determining IQ.

    “So no, owning any particular book is not a crime, but choosing to publicise the fact that you own books by Holocaust deniers and racists is questionable for a journalist and senior cabinet minister.  “
    By CAMEROON MAGAZINE – GM

    https://www.indy100.com/article/michael-gove-sarah-vine-racist-antisemitic-books-bookshelf-twitter-9497246

    https://libcom.org/blog/whats-michael-goves-bookshelf-why-it-matters-06052020

    https://conservativewoman.co.uk/the-strange-case-of-michael-goves-bookshelf/

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/05/the-ridiculousness-of-the-bookshelf-police/

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  6. Roz.

    People want to know why Michael Gove owns ‘racist’ and ‘antisemitic’ books?

    https://www.indy100.com/article/michael-gove-sarah-vine-racist-antisemitic-books-bookshelf-twitter-9497246

    There are many writers that cover World history from 1930-1950.From the thousands of historical researchers/authors supplying data during this period of time why then pick this particular disturbed author to sit on upon your bookshelf? – There is an obvious difference between propaganda and historical notification.

    People read books for many different reasons however there is always particular reasoning for keeping the same book.There is no logical explanation as to why any normal person with a conscience would even contemplate reading or owning a convicted racists book and with this in perspective we are therefore allowed to ask ourselves is it not reasonable to suggest Michael Gove is seemingly more interested in the author rather than the content of the book? and if this is the conclusion should not both UK parliament and the European parliament be holding Michael Gove to account for owning this evil propaganda.

    25 June 2020
    Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has sacked Rebecca Long-Bailey, saying she shared an article containing an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.(which is commendable) but why stop there?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53183085

    Labour leader Keir Starmer should now perhaps pursue actions to ask to have Michael Gove investigated by the Conservative Party.

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