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Exploring Russia’s 53rd Brigade’s MH17 Convoy with StoryMap

October 8, 2015

By Bellingcat Investigation Team

As part of our new report examining the open source evidence of the downing of Flight MH17 (read it here) we tracked the movement of the Russian military convoy that transported the Buk missile launcher to the border with Ukraine. Using StoryMap we’ve put together this interactive map of the route the 53rd Brigade

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283 Comments

    • Randy Dread

      Of course they aren’t going to ask if Ukraine ever had one.

      That would defeat the point of their baseless accusation, wouldn’t it.

      I’m sure Russia will give pipsqueak little Britain’s shrieking the attention it deserves.

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    • Mike

      Yes… I do think they are stupid enough.
      Our Western governments have used all kinds of falsified and or untrue information that’s come their way.

      Truly, Ukraine has Buk missiles of older models, and the producer of the rocket systems has released it’s own investigation into the disaster.
      They have come to the conclusion that it was an older model that has been used against MH-17.

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      • TJ

        And by doing so have left it hanging. It is a standard Russian tactic seen during this whole MH17 tragedy. They do this simply to muddy the waters and create confusion. Their claim is that they can’t work out why there has been Bow-tie Buk warhead fragments recovered from the body of the MH17 Captain, wreckage and other human remains. Can you not see what this implies?

        The die-hard conspiracy theorists do the rest with claims that the bow-tie fragments have been planted in the bodies and the wreckage. All in an effort to sow confusion and spin their blame away from themselves and the separatists.

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        • Leonardo

          Please at least watch the media you are trolling about.
          Russia was the first to give us a first satelite view. Nothing confusing about it. Just speculation. Why is the US holding back?
          Look I´m not entirely convinced that Russians weren´t involved.
          The funny thing is how little you need to declare Russias fault over something these days. You know how in the past there were such things as: being innocent until found guilty. Or how you called this thing, a yeah, the proof.
          And about the motive, don´t get me started there.
          The best thing we get here is speculation upon a theory with videos posted on social media.

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          • TJ

            You do realize that they lied about some of those satellite images. Someone in Russian military/intelligence felt the need to create the illusion that Ukrainian Buks were deployed in order to support their claim that is was the Ukrainians that fired the Buk. For the person creating that Russian version those Ukrainian Buks claimed in the satellite images had to be deployed. The same way as they lied about the buk on the truck video footage being in Krasnoarmeisk when it was easily geo-located to Luhansk. They still won’t accept it and refuse to update their initial claims. They were caught out in those lies and simply can’t go back.

            http://www.rusemb.org.uk/press/1865

            The US has already stated that they have no satellite imagery. What you are being confused by is the reference to SBIRS. Space-Based Infrared System doesn’t provide a satellite image but an indication of a missile launch. The US has already provided a graphic from that SBIRS claim. There is no satellite image but just an indication of launch.

  1. Mad Dog

    GDP of the UK is ranked 5th, nice job for a pipsqueak nation. Russia is ranked 10th, poor showing for a nation with all that natural wealth and a declining population.

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    • Randy Dread

      Russia’s population is growing again and Russia is ranked 5th on the World Bank’s more realistic PPP Index.

      Britain is 10th.

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      • Distant_Thunder

        Britain’s economy is clearly stronger than Russia’s at this point.

        As for Russia’s population, on that point you Randy is correct. as it is growing. Growing slowly, to be sure, but growing and not shrinking.

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        • Randy Dread

          Russia is a vast country with huge resources.

          It is much stronger than Britain, a small overcrowded island with little to offer.

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          • Andrea

            but russians keep buying expensive flats in london…
            …at lease those few who got the real money…

          • boggled

            And that is why Russian polls for many years, including this one, all show that people overwhelmingly would prefer to emigrate to UK or USA?
            hmm

            Fare thee well

          • Yanuk

            I wonder how it will fare in the 2015 PPP rankings after the effects of the Oil price drive and currency collapse?

            Probably not very well..

          • boggled

            Russia is not a country, Russian Federation is.
            The United Kingdom is a country, Britain is not a country anymore.
            Greater Britain was once a country but now it is part of the country United Kingdom.
            Great Britain did not include parts of Ireland, the UK does.
            Great Britain or Britain is NOT a country.
            And neither is Russia.
            Do try to keep up Randy.

            The name United Kingdom refers to the union of what were once four separate countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland

            http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/britain.html

            Fare thee well

      • Yanuk

        The EU is 1st on the same measure. Of course, without Gas – Russia would be closer to Chad.

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          • Mad Dog

            Russia is a vast country with huge resources that should be in the top 2 or 3, but the gross mismanagement of the Putin thugs continues to weigh heavily on the populace. Have you ever been there Randy….oh, I forgot, you live in St. Petersburg.

      • Mad Dog

        Russia’s population is growing cause they absconded with the Crimea! That added over 2 million people. Otherwise Russia is in decline with 54% of male deaths attributable to alcohol! I have seen the drunks on the streets lining up in front of a package store at 3 am! A land of resources and massive drunkeness! No wonder everyone has a dash cam, the only hope in protecting against the numb actions of the drunken minions. 54%! Nice country you got there Randy. It got so bad at one time that air crews were drinking antifreeze, leaving interceptors in cold climes unable to fly. 54%! Egads.

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    • boggled

      Maksym,
      with one special BUK that destroyed MH17 this convoy is linked to.
      One special BUK and missiles that was sent into another country.
      And Russian Federation trained troops.

      Fare thee well

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      • Andrey

        And nobody asks the question: Why would Russia or the Donetsk militia to shoot down this plane? However, immediately clear why this would be done Pro-American forces from Kiev. For the same purpose the authors of this “investigation” trying to create the appearance of evidence against Russia.

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  2. Bert Begthel

    Today your investigation was in the news in the Netherlands and on the internet in my country. The first thing that I am now wondering about is the question why your investigation has reached an conclusion while the official investigation by the government still has not reached that stage. It seems to me that this investigation is being obstructed for political reasons. Have you found any reason for this presumption? Thank you in advance.

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    • bellingcatadmin

      I think it’s more the case that we can report on our findings as we go, while the official investigation can’t really do that, and also has a lot of other factors to consider as well. It’s frustrating, but they get one chance to do it right, and it’s a very high profile case involving fields like open source and social media investigation that are new for such an investigation.

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      • Leonardo

        Dear admin,
        Please don´t put words like investigation and social media in one sentence.
        Maybe you didn´t learn in school, but sources kind of matter in an investigation.
        Please let the serious people do their job.

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        • Aric Toler

          Materials originating on social media are still materials. And I did take a journalism class in school where we learned about how to gather/verify information from social media. And I gave a lecture at a journalism school in Switzerland (your home country, according to your email/IP address) on how to gather and verify materials on social media.

          Please let the serious commenters do their commenting.

          Reply
  3. Дмитрий

    Хохлы, блядюги, сбивают не первый самолет.

    Reply

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